Wilma recounts the history of BCSEs, which she sees as emerging in response to Eurocentric schooling and as organisations that instilled good values, also offering academic support and vocational training.  She identifies Garveyism and the United Negro Improvement Association (UNIA) in Montreal as foundational influences on BCSEs. She feels that once the UNIA building was expropriated, the UNIA lost some of its “fire” having lost the connection to a physical space they could call their own. Wilma identifies the Sir George Williams Affair and Bill 101 as major turning points in the history of BCSEs in Montreal. She reflects on the preserving of archives of the BCSEs in which she was involved and her role in efforts to sustain the organization through funding instability and board-level challenges. Wilma laments the reliance on spaghetti dinners and small fundraisers. She sees a need for more strategic leadership, such as placing people on boards who can raise funds, and who have legal and systems knowledge.